Legislature(2001 - 2002)

11/01/2001 09:12 AM House LEC

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Legislative Council                                                                                                             
November 1, 2001                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
    1.      ROLL CALL                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The  Legislative  Council   meeting   was  called  to order  at 9:12  a.m.  by  Representative                                  
                                                           nd                                                                   
Green,  Legislative  Council  Chair,  in the Anchorage    2   Floor  Conference   Room    &  via                                
teleconference.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
The  roll was   taken.   In attendance   were  Council   members    Green,  Kott,  Murkowski,                                   
Ogan,   Rokeberg,    Berkowitz,    Cowdery,    Halford,   P.  Kelly,   Torgerson    and   Elton.                                
Members    absent  were  Porter  and  Donley.   Staff  present were:   Varni,  Finley,  Ibesate,                                
Price, Collins, Schofield and Ellis.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
    2.      APPROVAL OF September 5, 2001 MINUTES                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Cowdery   made   a motion  for a minor correction  on page  1, section 3(A), third line                                
down,   to  change   "cities"  to  "entities"  because   some   of  those  plaintiff's  are  not                                
representing  cities, they're  representing  themselves.    Representative    Green  moved    to                                
approve the minutes of September 5, 2001 with the correction.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:           Green, Kott, Murkowski, Ogan, Berkowitz, Cowdery, Halford, P. Kelly                                             
                and Elton                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
NAYS:                   None                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ABSENT:         Porter, Rokeberg, Donley and Torgerson                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The minutes were approved unanimously.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
    3.      PRINT SHOP PAPER PURCHASE                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Pam   Varni,   Executive   Director   of  the  Legislative  Affairs  Agency,    explained   that                                
$90,500   is in our  FY   02  Administrative   Services  Budget   for  Print Shop   paper.   By                                 
approval  of  this motion  the Print Shop   at different times  during  the fiscal year will be                                 
able to go out to bid and  purchase  Print Shop  paper  for printing of bills and for use by all                                
our various copying machines throughout the Capitol.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Discussion followed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Cowdery    moved   that Legislative  Council   approve  the  solicitation, expenditure                                 
and  award  of Print Shop  paper in the amount   of $90,500  from  Legislative Affairs  Agency                                  
FY 02 funds.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:           Green, Kott, Murkowski, Ogan, Rokeberg, Berkowitz, Cowdery, Halford,                                            
                P. Kelly and Elton                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
NAYS:                   None                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ABSENT:         Porter, Donley and Torgerson                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The motion was approved unanimously.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
    4.      COUNCIL OF STATE GOVERNMENTS (CSG) ANNUAL MEETING                                                                 
            UPDATE                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Pam   Varni,  presented  reports  with regards  to  CSG   fundraising  and  expenditures.   One                                 
report  as of  September   11,  2001  and  the  other  as of  October  30,  2001.    Ms.  Varni                                 
informed   Legislative  Council   that the CSG    Meeting   was  cancelled  on  September    14,                                
                                                                                                                                
2001due    to the events  of September    11, 2001.   In working   with  the Egan   Convention                                  
Center, CSG   staff, and the three major  hotels dates for rebooking  for the CSG   Conference                                  
                                                                                                                                
are looking  like September   29  - October  2,2004.    We  tried to look at dates in 2002  and                                 
2003  but  there was   not space  available  plus the  fact that Virginia  was  already  set for                                
having  their meeting  in December    of 2002  and  Pennsylvania   in 2003,  so we  will not be                                 
bumping   any  states.  We   have  refunded  our  cash contributions  with  the exception   of a                                
small  amount   from  sponsors  who   said we  could  keep  it for the expenses   to date.  The                                 
CSG Executive Committee will decide on the 2004 location at their December meeting.                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Rokeberg   made   a motion   that a letter be sent from  Legislative  Council,                                 
the  House   Speaker   and  Senate   President  to  CSG    giving  them   our  support  and  an                                 
invitation for a CSG Annual Meeting in 2004.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
 YEAS:          Green, Kott, Murkowski, Ogan, Rokeberg, Berkowitz, Cowdery, Halford,                                            
                P. Kelly and Elton                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
NAYS:                   None                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ABSENT:         Porter, Donley and Torgerson                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The motion was approved unanimously.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
    5.      CAPITOL SECURITY MEASURES                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Pam   Varni  presented  a memorandum      regarding   Capitol  security measures.    Ms.  Varni                                 
outlined our  current session security, current interim  security and  made  recommendations                                    
for immediate   session  security  measures.   Ms.   Varni  recommended     the Council   hire a                                
security expert  to do  a site security survey  of  the Capitol  and  Terry Miller  Legislative                                 
Office  Building.  Approximate    cost would   be $5,000  for the  Capitol, and  $2,000  for the                                
Terry  Miller  Building  plus  expenses   to come   to Juneau  from   Anchorage.    Bob   Kean,                                 
Security Director with Doyon Universal Services in Anchorage, provided the estimate.                                            
                                                                                                                                
Pam  Varni  requested  guidelines  as to how  much  and  what  kind of security the Legislature                                 
would like in the Capitol and Terry Miller Legislative Office Building.                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Discussion followed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Elton  made    a  motion   that  we   accept  item   #2  from   Ms.   Varni's                                 
memorandum       under  Recommended       Immediate     Session   Security  Measures    with   a                                
recommendation that a cap of $8,000 be placed on spending.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ogan amended the motion to also include item #1.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Halford recommended that we only go with Senator Elton's motion.                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Berkowitz recommended that we go with Senator Elton's motion.                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ogan withdrew his amendment.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Rokeberg   moved   that we  adopt an  amendment    to the motion  on  the floor                                
that under  Recommended      Immediate   Session  Security  Measures,   item  #4 be  adopted  in                                
Ms. Varni's memorandum.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:           Ogan and Rokeberg                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
NAYS:           Green,  Kott, Murkowski,    Berkowitz,   Cowdery,   Halford,  Kelly, Torgerson                                  
                and Elton                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ABSENT:         Porter and Donley                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
The amendment failed 9 to 2.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Discussion Followed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Green moved to vote on Senator Elton's motion.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:           Green, Kott, Murkowski, Ogan, Rokeberg, Berkowitz, Cowdery, Halford,                                            
                Kelly, Torgerson and Elton                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
NAYS:           None                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ABSENT:         Porter and Donley                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
The motion was approved unanimously.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
    6.      KTOO WIRING APPROVAL IN CAPITOL                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
Bill Legere  requested  permission   to make   modifications   to our facilities in the Capitol.                                
KTOO    would   upgrade  our  wiring in the Capitol,  which  in turn would   make  it easier for                                
KTOO    to do the audio/video   streaming  of Legislative meetings   on the Internet.   There is                                
no cost to the Legislature KTOO would be doing this.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Discussion followed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Cowdery moved to authorize the KTOO wiring in the Capitol.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:           Green, Kott, Murkowski, Ogan, Porter, Rokeberg, Berkowitz, Cowdery,                                             
                Halford, Kelly, Torgerson, and Elton                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
NAYS:                   None                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ABSENT:         Porter and Donley                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
The motion was approved unanimously.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
    7.      LATE PER DIEM REQUEST - REPRESENTATIVE KOHRING                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
Pam   Varni  presented  a memorandum     from  Vic  Kohring   requesting  interim per-diem   for                                
May   and June.   Ms.  Varni  informed  Legislative  Council  that the request  exceeds  the 60                                 
days  and needed  to come   before Legislative  Council  for approval.  The  request was  in the                                
amount is $1,105.00.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Discussion followed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Donley moved Representative Kohring's per-diem be approved.                                                             
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:           Kott, Donley, Ogan, Berkowitz, Cowdery, Halford, Torgerson, Elton                                               
                                                                                                                                
NAYS:                   Green, Murkowski, Rokeberg, and P. Kelly                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ABSENT:         Porter                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Motion passed 8 to 4.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
    8.      KETCHIKAN LIO LEASE RENEWAL                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Varni  presented  a second  year  renewal  of our  lease with 50  FS,  LLC  in Ketchikan.                                  
The second renewal option is December 1, 2001 to November 30, 2002.                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Cowdery   moved    to approve  the second  renewal  option  between  50  FS, LLC   and                                 
the Agency with the yearly total of $37,181.16.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:           Green, Kott, Murkowski, Ogan, Rokeberg, Berkowitz, Cowdery, Donley,                                             
                Halford, Torgerson, and Elton                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
NAYS:                   None                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ABSENT:  Porter and P. Kelly                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The motion was unanimously approved.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
    9.      LEGISLATIVE VEHICLE POLICY                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Varni  presented  a  draft Legislative  Vehicle  Policy  and  Procedures   to be reviewed                                  
and  adopted  by  the Legislative Council.   Attached   are two  forms  that would  be  used by                                 
Legislators  and  Legislative  employees   or  Agency   staff and  Sgt.-At-Arms   staff signing                                 
that they  have  read the  Legislative  Vehicle  Policy  and  Procedures   before  they drive  a                                
legislative vehicle.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Murkowski     recommended     changes   to  the header   not only  stating  the                                
Executive Director but the Rules Chairs and Presiding Officers.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Cowdery    had  some  concerns   about the  use of the  vans or  equipment   that there                                
should  be  something   in  writing  from  the  Legislator  not the  staff so  that there is no                                 
question who is responsible.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Murkowski    requested  that the following   changes  be  made  under  section                                 
D. (d), Custodian Responsibilities, "that it is forbidden for the driver to use a cell phone."                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Ogan  on  page 3, under  E. (c).  Storage of Legislative  Vehicles.   Needs  to                                
address  parking  in front  of a public  place  that is in question  so  that the public  won't                                 
question the use of the vans.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Halford requested that only licensed drivers be allowed to drive the vehicles.                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Kott   requested   pagers   or  cell  phones    be  used   as   a  means    of                                
communicating     with drivers.  Jan  Price, Supply  Officer  stated that pagers  are issued  to                                
drivers.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Cowdery   requested  that (Hands   free) speakerphones   be permanent   fixtures in the                                
vehicles.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Torgerson   moved   that the changes   requested  by Representative   Murkowski    and                                 
Senator Cowdery be approved.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Donley   questioned  the  writing of the  changes.   Pam  Varni  stated that under  D.                                 
(d) after "forbidden"  adding  "by the driver", and  adding  on page  1 not only the Executive                                  
Director  but the Rules  Chairs and  Presiding  Officers and  change  on  page  2, section D. d.                                
under  Custodian   Responsibilities.   So  that it is reworded   so  that its not so  much   the                                
responsibility of the Custodian but the individual actually driving the vehicles.                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Donley   moved   an amendment     be added   to the motion  to specifically delete  the                                
provision on use of cell phone under section D (d). Custodian Responsibilities.                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Rep. Green made a motion to vote on the motion as amended.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:           Kott, Ogan, Berkowitz, Cowdery, Donley, Halford, P. Kelly, Torgerson                                            
                and Elton.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
NAYS:           Green and Murkowski                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
ABSENT:         Porter and Rokeberg                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
The motion passed 9 to 2.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Murkowski    requested  a change  on  the form  where  individuals  sign.  The                                 
form  should  be  signed-off  by the Legislator  as well  as the employee.    A  signature  line                                
should be added on the form for the Legislator to sign-off on.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative        Berkowitz         requested        an      amendment          that       a                                
"zero tolerance" for drinking of alcohol by the driver of the vehicle be added.                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Green  requested  that an amendment    be  added  to include "zero  tolerance"                                 
and  no drinking  of alcohol or consumption    of substances  that could impair  driving ability                                
within 8 hours before driving vehicles.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:           Green, Kott, Murkowski, Ogan, Rokeberg, Berkowitz, Cowdery, Donley,                                             
                Halford, P. Kelly, Torgerson and Elton                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
NAYS:           None                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ABSENT:         Porter                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Motion as amended passed unanimously.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Green  requested  a vote to adopt  the Policy and  Procedures  for Legislative                                 
Vehicles as amended.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:           Green, Kott, Murkowski, Ogan, Rokeberg, Berkowitz, Cowdery, Donley,                                             
                Halford, P. Kelly, Torgerson and Elton                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
NAYS:                   None                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ABSENT:         Porter                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Motion was approved unanimously.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
    10. REDISTRICTING INTERVENTION UPDATE                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Green  gave  a brief update  on the  status of the Redistricting Intervention.                                 
Representative   Green  requested  that Legislative Council  authorize  up to $250,000   for the                                
amicus brief in the redistricting suit and consult with expert witnesses.                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Discussion followed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Donley  moved   to authorize  the Council  to make   it clear that the motion from  the                                
prior meeting   also included   the following   suggestion  from  the  Judge  that it would  be                                 
appropriate  for the Legislature  to  do an  amicus  brief and  that in preparing  that amicus                                  
brief it would  be appropriate  for the  Legislative Council   or whoever   is representing  the                                
Legislature  to consult with expert  witnesses.  Senator  Donley  stated The  expert witness  is                                
appropriate   every  though   they  would   not  be  testifying at  the hearings   because   the                                
questions  raised here deals with  the constitutional requirements  of how   house  districts are                               
constructed  and  those involve  expert  testimony  as far as the social economic   links.  It is                               
perfectly  appropriate  for  Council  preparing   the  amicus  brief  to consult  with  experts                                 
regarding  those  social economic    considerations  because  that's going   to be a big  factor                                
where the court is going to be looking.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Discussion followed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Murkowski    moved   that Legislative Council   file with the court, as amicus                                 
curiae in the proceedings.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Green  requested   a modification  so  that we  don't get  into that definition                                
issue, that it also include the right to discuss strategy or whatever attorneys  do in this case                                
with  expert witnesses  since that's the turn the whole   concept  seems  to be  taking a battle                                
of expert witnesses or whatever our attorney needs to learn from those expert witnesses.                                        
                                                                                                                                
Discussion followed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Berkowitz   made  an  amendment    the attorney be  instructed not to share  or                                
consult with other plaintiffs.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:           Berkowitz and Elton                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
NAYS:           Green, Kott, Murkowski, Ogan, Rokeberg, Cowdery, Donley, Halford, P.                                            
                Kelly and Torgerson                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
ABSENT:         Porter                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Motion failed 2 to 9.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Green  moved   Legislative  Council  gives authorization  for attorneys  to file                               
an amicus   brief in the redistricting suit and participate in expert witnesses  not  to exceed                                 
$250,000.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:           Green, Kott, Murkowski, Ogan, Rokeberg, Cowdery, Donley, Halford, P.                                            
                Kelly, and Torgerson                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
NAYS:           Berkowitz and Elton                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
ABSENT:         Porter                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Motion passed 9 to 2.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
    11. KATIE JOHN LITIGATION UPDATE                                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
Mr.  Popely   briefed  Legislative   Council   on  the appeal   of  the Katie   John  case  and                                 
submitted copies of court papers for review.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Discussion followed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     12.     COMPUTER & TECHNOLOGY UPDATE                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
Representative   Kott   updated   Legislative  Council   on   the status  of  the  new   PDA's                                  
(Personal  Digital  Assistant).   Representative   Kott  describes  the  contents  of the  PDA                                  
packages.   He  described  a security problem   with  the PDA's,   noting that Microsoft  came                                  
out with  a fix and it is currently being looked  at by DP  and  it should be  corrected by  the                                
 st                                                                                                                             
1  of  the January.   He also  noted  that there would  be  training offered on  the use  of the                                
                                                          st                                                                    
new  system.   All new  machines   will be ready by  the 1  of the year.  He congratulated   DP                                 
for a great job done.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
     13.     GAS PIPLELINE UPDATE                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Torgerson   gave  a  brief update   to Legislative   Council  on  the  Gas   Pipeline.                                
Senator  Murkowski    is introducing new  legislation on the Gas  Pipeline. Senator  Torgerson                                  
stated that he has contacted  Senator  Murkowski's    Office  and they  will be sending  a copy                                 
of the new  legislation.  Senator  Torgerson   stated he would  like to hire an economist   and                                 
have  him/her   on  board  by  December.     Senator  Torgerson   also  stated that Legislative                                 
Counsel, Jack Chenoweth is currently reviewing and highlighting special interests for us.                                       
                                                                                                                                
Discussion followed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Rep.  Ogan    moved    that Legislative  Council   solicit, award   and   expend   funds  for  a                                
Economist   Petroleum   consultant  under  specification to be developed   by the Chairman    of                                
the Joint Committee on the Natural Gas Pipeline in an amount not to exceed $300,000.                                            
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:           Green, Kott, Murkowski, Ogan, Rokeberg, Berkowitz, Cowdery,                                                     
                Torgerson and Elton                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
NAYS:                   None                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ABSENT:         Porter, Donley, Halford and P. Kelly                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Motion passed unanimously.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
    14. FIRST AID POLICY                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
Pam   Varni   informed   Legislative   Council   of the  Agency's    current  first aid  policy.                                
Currently  our Chief  of Security, armed/unarmed     security guards  and  our previous  supply                                 
officer were  trained with  the AED    (Automated   External  Defibrillator) machine.   We   are                                
now  looking   at having that same   training provided  again  and  having  the current Supply                                  
Officer for the Agency    receive training with  the AED   machine.    Pages will receive  CPR                                  
training.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
    15. ALASKA 20/20 CONFERENCE                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Jane  Angvik,   Program    Manager   for  the Alaska   20/20  Forum    introduced   herself and                                 
would   like to invite  the members    of the  Legislature  to attend  the Conference    on  the                                
Future  of  Alaska.   The  conference   is November     27  - 28,  2001  in  Anchorage    at the                                
Captain  Cook   Hotel.   Ms.  Angvik   gave a  brief description of  the Alaska  20/20  Forum.                                  
Ms.   Angvik    also  stated   that  Representative    Porter  has   given   authorization   for                                
Representatives   to attend the conference  by  paying  for the registration and transportation                                 
fees.  Representative    Green  asked   Ms.  Angvik   to  speak  with  Senator   Halford  about                                 
paying  for the cost of  Senators  wishing  to attend the  conference.   Representative  Green                                  
stated that he would help in anyway possible.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 12:35pm.                                                                                           

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